View Full Version : What is the deal on getting into Flight School?
AirbornePilot
13 Jun 08, 02:16
I have just been wondering if getting into flight school is just luck or what. My Husband has been to 3 boards and still hasn't gotten in. There seem to be a lot of people on the board each time and they seem to have the results of who they take pretty fast. We have heard that if you do not know someone to get your name out there, then you will most likely not get in. Does anyone know if this is true? H:confused:e has talked to a few CW 5's and they all told him that his packet is really good and so are his scores, so this only leaves me to wonder if this is ture. Any information?? Thanks!
I have just been wondering if getting into flight school is just luck or what. My Husband has been to 3 boards and still hasn't gotten in. There seem to be a lot of people on the board each time and they seem to have the results of who they take pretty fast. We have heard that if you do not know someone to get your name out there, then you will most likely not get in. Does anyone know if this is true? H:confused:e has talked to a few CW 5's and they all told him that his packet is really good and so are his scores, so this only leaves me to wonder if this is ture. Any information?? Thanks!
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Patience, AirbornePilot
It's supply and demand economics; when there are hundreds of applicants for each board, and only a few dozen are to be selected, then some are going to be passed over. Many times over.
Urge your fellow to keep applying, eventually his packet will rise to the top and he'll get in.
:wink:
I don't know anybody, and I got in. Haha, I was pretty surprised as for the past 8 years I've been an actor in New York and Los Angeles. I did a movie with Faye Dunaway that's going to premier when I'm at basic; damn. Anyway, if I can get in so can your husband. Have a little faith!
Can I have your autograph?
Ha, I'd rather not up my tool-bag ante just yet. Especially since at WOCS there will be plenty of time for me to make a jerk out of myself. :biggrin:
Conquistador
13 Jun 08, 14:36
I don't know anybody, and I got in. Haha, I was pretty surprised as for the past 8 years I've been an actor in New York and Los Angeles. I did a movie with Faye Dunaway that's going to premier when I'm at basic; damn. Anyway, if I can get in so can your husband. Have a little faith!
Your not the famous Jereme Leason are you? Anyway, I went to basic with an actor that was in several movies and now he's in the Special Forces and made E-7 in just 6 years. If your half as good as he was I will be impressed.
dapittbull69
13 Jun 08, 16:38
I sent a case of beer to each member of the board along with my packet and had no problem getting selected :beerchug2:
I sent a case of beer to each member of the board along with my packet and had no problem getting selected :beerchug2:
Hmm, I suppose the subscriptions to "Hustler" I sent them was a bit over the top :naughty: but hell that worked too..
I have a friend here at Rucker in the 60 course who submitted his packet 10 times, so that means your almost half way here!
dapittbull69
13 Jun 08, 18:12
Hmm, I suppose the subscriptions to "Hustler" I sent them was a bit over the top :naughty: but hell that worked too..
Got any leftovers? I need to do...uhhhh....research....yeah research for an upcoming project that my wife put me up to:tongue:
rangerreece
13 Jun 08, 20:18
Yeah, the only way I was able to get in to flight school was the fact that my dad is President Bush, my Uncle is GEN Schomaker, and I took each and every member of the board out to dinner, and bought their wives and girlfriends lots of chocolates and flowers. And then like any good lobbyist, I set up all the key power players with some discrete escort service and tickets to the sonics, followed the next day by an aerosmith concert with backstage pass. That's what it takes to get into flight school in the Army, because hard work, a clean record, high scores, and performance evaluations, having nothing to do with it. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, make sure you smooze it up with all the senior guys and gals on kiowapilots.com because that will definitely get you in to flight school.
stickbuddy
14 Jun 08, 04:25
Yeah, the only way I was able to get in to flight school was the fact that my dad is President Bush, my Uncle is GEN Schomaker, and I took each and every member of the board out to dinner, and bought their wives and girlfriends lots of chocolates and flowers. And then like any good lobbyist, I set up all the key power players with some discrete escort service and tickets to the sonics, followed the next day by an aerosmith concert with backstage pass. That's what it takes to get into flight school in the Army, because hard work, a clean record, high scores, and performance evaluations, having nothing to do with it. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, make sure you smooze it up with all the senior guys and gals on kiowapilots.com because that will definitely get you in to flight school.
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God I hate it when “great scores” and “really good” packets aren’t rewarded with immediate acceptance and laurels. What’s the world coming to when you can’t just drop a packet off with the 1SG and wait for the FAX to spit out your orders. Don’t worry Mam, the Army has a bad habit of rewarding mediocrity, persistence is the answer for your soldier.
I do appreciate the insinuation that the only way you get in is to know someone who greases the skids for you. There’s no way this could be a merit based or performance based selection process, not in this day an age. I hate to point out the elephant in the corner but WOCS and IERW isn’t little league, we don’t give trophies to everyone for trying hard and showing up. Good luck to your husband, if his application is indeed selected I hope he works hard and does well. If it isn’t I can recommend some good conspiracy theory websites that might help to sooth his hurt feelings.
stickbuddy
14 Jun 08, 12:38
Within a short period of time we've received two different info requests from the wives of applicants. I'm curious to know, from those of us who've been there: Did you're wife help negotiate you're packet/application process?
:lookaround:
armypilot1981
14 Jun 08, 16:55
Within a short period of time we've received two different info requests from the wives of applicants. I'm curious to know, from those of us who've been there: Did you're wife help negotiate you're packet/application process?
:lookaround:
f#ck no
Conquistador
14 Jun 08, 17:25
Within a short period of time we've received two different info requests from the wives of applicants. I'm curious to know, from those of us who've been there: Did you're wife help negotiate you're packet/application process?
:lookaround:
I have a feeling this isn't something new. I had a friend in flight school who came from Benning as a Ranger and said he loved being a Ranger. His wife, which was about 5 years older than him, said she wanter a pilot for a husband and not a Ranger. She told us one time about all the calls and research she did to find out about the WOFT program for her husband because he wasn't that interested. However, he was still top of his class and got 160th right out of flight school flying CH-47's.
AndyMiller
14 Jun 08, 18:07
This website is still called kiowapilots, right?
dirtyharry71
14 Jun 08, 18:23
It would explain the new trend.
Can you study for me? Can you pretend I did this flight well? Can you create hours so I can continue to recieve flight pay? Can you file my packet......
I heard if you go to Emery Ripoff you can get your pilots license. Then again, if you want to be an Army Aviator it may take more work and effort.
kiowascout
14 Jun 08, 18:58
I just think that it is a sad commentary on both our society and the state of our armed forces that the servicemember himself won't/ or can't tell their wives to shut the fuck up and let them take the reigns on their career.
Makes me think that those certain individuals sit in a dark corner of their room at night whining about how unfair life is and their wives just tell tem that momma will make it alright for them
walkinghispath
15 Jun 08, 02:27
I just want to take this opportunity to brag about my wife. When I first got the crazy idea to go be a helicopter pilot in the Army she helped me look at all the facets of the decision objectively. She tempered my enthusiasm for flying and blowing stuff up with the reality that I'd be volunteering for something that was pretty much guaranteed to suck at times as well as take me away from her and the kids. That and the fact that it is not as safe as maintenance on a priority 1 asset (her biggest concern). The outcome of our discussion is obvious and hopefully my orders will come sooner than later. But throughout the process it has been me pushing forward and her there motivating me. I think there's respect in allowing someone to achieve their own accomplishments. I mean, just because you let your kid fall off his bike doesn't mean you don't love him; how retarded would a 30 year old look with training wheels.
I dont think the original poster is trying to run his career, sounds like she is looking for some words of encouragement to give him. If she had been asking for the address to send the packet into, then I understand the backlash. Simmer down a bit.
I agree with all those that say keep applying. If he is qualified and competitive, he will get selected eventually. Make sure that he is ADDING to his packet each board, not just trying to get in on the same quals. Let the board see that he is actively seeking this position, month in and month out, rather than just sitting and waiting. Good luck.
wonderbread
15 Jun 08, 05:47
Within a short period of time we've received two different info requests from the wives of applicants. I'm curious to know, from those of us who've been there: Did you're wife help negotiate you're packet/application process?
:lookaround:
My wife was always to busy being barefoot and chained to the stove to help me get in, but I did whore out my sister to the board so... for all those looking to get in go ahead and use it if you like. Not the technique, my sister.:salute:
I just think that it is a sad commentary on both our society and the state of our armed forces that the servicemember himself won't/ or can't tell their wives to shut the fuck up and let them take the reigns on their career.
Makes me think that those certain individuals sit in a dark corner of their room at night whining about how unfair life is and their wives just tell tem that momma will make it alright for them
Damn.
That's a little harsh, dude.
I didn't get all that from the original posters message.
:lookaround:
My wife was always to busy being barefoot and chained to the stove to help me get in, but I did whore out my sister to the board so... for all those looking to get in go ahead and use it if you like. Not the technique, my sister.:salute:
Chained to the stove, and whore your sister out!!!!!!!!!! You read that same "How to make friends and influence people" book I did.
Sister in a whore house? Must be wanting to become a Blackhawk guy.
kiowascout
15 Jun 08, 11:14
Sparky -
It isnt just the intent of this original poster. I was commenting on the recent spate of wives and significant others coming onto boards such as this to ask or state their opinions.
My point really was this.... If that particular person wants it so badly, why aren't THEY the one speaking up and asking the questions?
I honestly feel that many people today in our society are so used to having everything handed to them on a silver platter that they simply expect maximum payout with minimum effort.
I apologize to all if I sounded too harsh in my original posting. I will return to lurking with random postring now.
I mean, just because you let your kid fall off his bike doesn't mean you don't love him; how retarded would a 30 year old look with training wheels.
Have you seen me riding my bike or something? Where do you live?
I'm NOT a retard
Sparky -
It isnt just the intent of this original poster. I was commenting on the recent spate of wives and significant others coming onto boards such as this to ask or state their opinions.
My point really was this.... If that particular person wants it so badly, why aren't THEY the one speaking up and asking the questions?
I honestly feel that many people today in our society are so used to having everything handed to them on a silver platter that they simply expect maximum payout with minimum effort.
I apologize to all if I sounded too harsh in my original posting. I will return to lurking with random postring now.
No apologies necessary, sir.
And you certainly don't need to pipe-down or return to random posting or anonymity just because of my one observation. You are entitled to your own opinions, and should voice them as loudly and as often as you like. (Especially coming from a fellow with such a bold and distinguished moniker as kiowascout.)
Re; your question above, perhaps it's not a matter that we've got a cultural shift going on (wherein weakling males are clinging to the skirts of their overly-bold and opinionated women, and at the same time wishing for things to be given to them without any real effort exerted).
My perception of the recent rash of flight school applicant’s wives or girlfriends posting, instead of the fellows themselves?
My gut tells me that these guys are busy at the job (hard-working Army and Air Force enlisted men that they are), and their wives simply have a lot of time on their hands, and a wide-open internet at their disposal. These women want their fellow to succeed, they are frustrated at a perceived lack of progress, and so they’ve got internet browsing for information and advice.
There’s a very good chance that the fellows in question don’t have a single clue that their women are doing all this internet research, and are entering web-forums on their behalf.
As to stickbuddy’s query (and it was a valid one), “how many of us had our wives or girlfriends helping us to get into flight school”?
I myself had no such help from a wife or girlfriend, because at the time I was boarded, I was seventeen going on eighteen, I had broken up with my girlfriend. And even if she wanted to help, it certainly wouldn’t have been anything like we’ve witnessed here lately.
(Back in 1977, there were no home computers, and Al Gore hadn’t invented the internet yet.)
Nope, if my gal had wanted to help, she would’ve had to do it the old fashioned way; drive all the way to 200 Stovall Street in Alexandria Virginia, and offer to blow everyone in there.
:uhoh::eek::frown::smoke:
AndyMiller
15 Jun 08, 13:42
I just want to take this opportunity to brag about my wife. When I first got the crazy idea to go be a helicopter pilot in the Army she helped me...
:uhoh:
Save it for Oprah, nobody here cares, wannabe.
...their wives simply have a lot of time on their hands, and a wide-open internet at their disposal.
See, Sparky...that's what porn is for. :smile: At least that's what most guys do with "a wide-open internet at their disposal". :rape:
Sunsetbeach
23 Jun 08, 03:06
"insert funny story how you got selected" laugh laugh laugh. last but not least put smilies:smile::biggrin::bravo::angryfire::cool::ev il::lookaround::frown::naughty::salute::smoke::rof l:
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