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RASSEGA
19 Mar 04, 09:45
HAI 2004, Las Vegas, Nevada, (March 14, 2004) - Bell Helicopter Chief Executive Officer Mike Redenbaugh today announced Bell's intention to go forward with an IFR version of the 427. "We are nearing completion of negotiations with our partners and expect to make a formal announcement about partnership details by mid-year. Bell is also discussing initial sales with several prospective customers, including fleet purchase prospects.”

He continued “The key message about the 427IFR is Bell’s commitment to the commercial market by our investment in the 427 to make it meet customer requirements. It was designed for our customers with their direct input. Over two years of study and evaluation have gone into producing what will be a great single pilot IFR rated light twin.”

Mr. Redenbaugh continued; “As we know, developing and producing a new aircraft is a very expensive proposition. Many millions had been spent on the 427 already. Our customers that have already bought the 427 have seen that it performs extremely well. The customers that use the aircraft find it very reliable for their mission expectations and they are very pleased with it. But because it was VFR it was precluded from operating in certain environments and markets. Our goal is to provide a 427 that meets all mission requirements in all mission profiles…VFR and IFR. The 427IFR will do that.”

The 427IFR will have many new features and some elements of Bell’s MAPL technology program. Some of the more important ones include more cabin room, a new state-of-the-art glass cockpit and new rotor technology offering competitive performance. These additions will make the 427IFR an excellent aircraft for the EMS and Homeland Security mission, able to fly in IFR conditions and operate at higher altitudes. Bell also expects to expand the market for light twins in the offshore industry.

The glass cockpit features include:

Integrated Avionics System
Fully coupled 3-axis autopilot
Pilot friendly instrument panel
Room for growth and mission flexibility
A completely reworked rotor system will provide the operational margins needed for vital missions. It will provide:
Increased speed
Improved altitude performance
Decreased noise
Always considered a prime aircraft for the EMS mission, the 427IFR will provide the features and capabilities that will make it the aircraft of choice. Increased volume in the cabin provides for comfort and improved patient access in the EMS configuration. Capable of carrying two patients and two attendants or one patient and three attendants plus all required equipment, the 427IFR has the power and performance to get the job done better than any competitor.
Not forgetting about current 427 customers, many of the improvements made to the 427IFR will be available in kit form for current owners.

Syseng
19 Mar 04, 12:15
I heard an interesting idea. Use the 427 for both the LUH and the ARH. You could paint a plain jane 427 green put a couple different radios in it and you have an LUH. RAID boys could hang all their stuff on theirs.

Put a modernized (smaller/lighter) OH-58D mission equipment package in a 427 (and qualify it) and you have an ARH. You could even put 4 station weapons pylons on it. Probably keep two seats in the back for troops/downed pilots to boot. And not cram avionics in the cargo compartment so you guys have a place to put your stuff.

That would give you a common airframe and drive train which would be a big plus logistics wise.

JasonActon
19 Mar 04, 13:44
Syseng, you're starting to make too much sense, stop that!

robertswj
19 Mar 04, 14:16
Syseng,
Could not have siad it better. Imagine the "commonality of parts" plus and the reduced training requirement, not to mention all of the common parts in the system already that are interchangable from the KW. The marines figured it out why can't we? That is the best option. IMHO

JasonActon
19 Mar 04, 18:29
Parts commonality would be an awesome thing. I've never understood why the Army didn't mandate a common powertrain for the Blackhawk and Apache. Who cares if two companies make them, if the Army puts that requirement out, they'd find a way to make it happen.

The Marines have set the standard (did I say that?), it'd be nice if we could meet or surpass it.

Syseng
19 Mar 04, 18:54
Realistically, if you want common parts between two aircraft, they have to be made by the same contractor. We actually do have common Apache and UH-60 parts, the T-700 engine made by GE.

We tried to do it back in the 80s with the UH-1 Composite main rotor blade (fiasco). Made by Bell with Boeing (Philly) as a second source. Didn't work. Army spent $100M and we are back to metal blades.

JasonActon
19 Mar 04, 20:11
I knew about the T-700, but aren't there so many different versions of it now that they really aren't common parts?

I wasn't around for the composite main rotor blade, but I heard there were problems with the blade, and not contractors working together? Wasn't the AH-1 blade made by Kaman?

With the way the system is now, it may not be workable. But if there was a commonality requirement, I think the industry could do it if it was a choice between that and losing the contract.

Syseng
19 Mar 04, 21:34
They use the 701C in both. I think the fuel controls differ.

Problems with the blade and with the contractors working together.

AH-1F blade is Kaman.

robertswj
20 Mar 04, 08:04
Not all Apaches use the 701C. I found this out when I worked in the 18 ABC. The Apache community is pretty much 60-40 between the 701/701C. There are interchanable with some work and provided mod kits.
The point for me is that we allow the contractor to dictate certain mandates and often because we, (the army Aquisition Corps), award the contract before the details are ironed out.
I think we could force contractors to play together by being thorough in what we contract. The Kaman fiasco was a prime example of allowing contractors to drive the train. We still do it, today.

Genghis_Don
21 Mar 04, 16:52
send the 427 idea to the house armed services commity quick!