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Punk Kid
28 Oct 04, 10:47
http://www.sparkdesign.nl/actueel/20041013palv/20041013press.html

WOJG(SW),USA
28 Oct 04, 11:20
I'd pimp it!:D

Warlord06
28 Oct 04, 12:26
I'm in!:thumbsup:

John
28 Oct 04, 14:40
Could it sit on 20's?

Sparky2
28 Oct 04, 18:33
PALV, the Personal Air & Land Vehicle.

What's the PH stand for?
Who comes up with such perplexing acronyms?

PH-PALV,

Hmmm....

Part Helicopter - Part Aviation-Like Vehicle....

Naw.

Paris Hilton - Pampered, Ambitious Little Vixen?

That's more like it!

Piston Helo's - Processing Air Like (a) Vacuum.

*Eh*

Pu$$y Hair - Pure Angora Lined Vagina!!
:eek:

Yeesh.
I'd better quit while I'm ahead.

:rolleyes:

WOJG(SW),USA
28 Oct 04, 19:45
Originally posted by Sparky2
PALV, the Personal Air & Land Vehicle.


Piston Helo's - Processing Air Like (a) Vacuum.


Digging the analogy sparky, but it is a rotary engine, ala Mazda rx7/rx8, not a piston engine:p

Sparky2
28 Oct 04, 20:19
Homer prepares to do his final exam to pass high school...

Homer: All right brain, you don't like me, and I don't like you. But let's just get me through this, and I can get back to killing you with beer.

Homer's brain: It's a deal!

cadet coburn
18 Feb 05, 08:50
wow... if people that cant drive were allowed to fly too... we'd all be in trouble.

RASSEGA
18 Feb 05, 11:22
is that the new solo cycle?
When did they stop that by the way?

Punk Kid
18 Feb 05, 11:36
It was stopped about a year and a half ago, briefly revived with class 04-07 and quickly died again. There is now a push underway for classes to revive it, voluntarilly.

Alpha Fox
18 Feb 05, 12:35
Ok,

I have come under serious fire in the past because I have been considering a gyro copter... The vehicle in the photo is indeed a gyro copter.... This means that the vehicle is in a constant state of autorotation and requires thrust to overcome the forces of gravity.

Gyrocopters at present are not as efficient as airplanes when it comes to flying from point A to point B and the only way they can really hover is to fly into a head wind strong enough to "zero" out the ground speed. This head wind (to zero the ground speed) will differ from craft to craft. The impressive thing about them is that they allow you to fly as slow as 15 MPH or as fast as 100 MPH (on avg) depending on type gyrocopter and power plant. Gyro copters are not as complex as helicopters and do not consume the fuel required by helicopters as well.

Check out some of these websites..

http://www.ufo-helithruster.com/
http://www.raf2000.com/
http://www.groenbros.com/
http://www.cartercopters.com/cctd.html

As far as safety goes. No one should ever try to fly any aircraft with out the proper instruction. Most accidents have involved people trying to self teach themselves how to fly these airframes and have led to a bad rap.. There are the rare equipment failure as well but these occur with planes as well.

-AF

Genghis_Don
19 Feb 05, 10:53
and here is AlphaFox after the maiden flight....sometime after a nuclear holocost in the Australian desert:

dirtyharry71
19 Feb 05, 10:58
AF,

What is the limitation in creating a rotor system to support the (what seems) light cargo? I'm confused why it requires thrust along with the rotor system. Is it to avoid the counter thrust system? As long as the motorcycle is a Ricer, it should be light enough to be lifted and supported by just a rotor and counter rotor system; NO?

x58dav8r
19 Feb 05, 11:08
Get 'im AF. Straighten him out.:wacky:

bug
19 Feb 05, 11:09
I guess no one got the "I am treading water thread"

http://www.kiowapilots.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4023&highlight=treading+water

JasonActon
19 Feb 05, 12:29
Originally posted by dirtyharry71
AF,

What is the limitation in creating a rotor system to support the (what seems) light cargo? I'm confused why it requires thrust along with the rotor system. Is it to avoid the counter thrust system? As long as the motorcycle is a Ricer, it should be light enough to be lifted and supported by just a rotor and counter rotor system; NO?

The key to a gyrocopter is the fact that the rotor system isn't powered. It's the airflow that helps keep the rotor system turning. I don't know exactly how it works, but it seems pretty cool!

Genghis_Don
19 Feb 05, 12:39
in a traditional gyrocopter, you have a prop to provide thrust, and the rotor provides lift and directional flight....think about it as a freewheeling wing....basically mast flow keeps the rotor turning and the outboard portion of the blade provides lift. I think I have that right anyway

bug
19 Feb 05, 12:44
No...you are sinking at max gross ....in other word swimm...
:p

dirtyharry71
19 Feb 05, 13:45
Originally posted by Genghis_Don
in a traditional gyrocopter, you have a prop to provide thrust, and the rotor provides lift and directional flight....think about it as a freewheeling wing....basically mast flow keeps the rotor turning and the outboard portion of the blade provides lift. I think I have that right anyway Ah So. Now I understand. So would a light weight Trans to PTO off the vehicle engine be out of the question?

Alpha Fox
20 Feb 05, 08:47
Don is about as straight on this as anyone that has posted..

This link probably descibes it better than I could articulate it here.

http://www.autogyro.com/technic/jeflewis.htm#workings

-AF

dirtyharry71
20 Feb 05, 09:06
Ok, I think I got it now. So have any been built to the design of the origional post?