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Just a word of advice i know they say to show up a few days before the report date. I would show up at least 4-5 days prior. there is alot of stuff (especially inter-service and prior) that you have to take care of so, plus the stuff in the woc sop thats got to be done. It sucks but believe me it will make starting alot easier.
skywestseth
23 Mar 06, 13:04
Good Advice...
Let me throw somethin in here....
If you apply and get selected with an interim secret clearance, do not wait around sixty days for your orders, because they won't come, you MUST request a waiver, from Mrs. Bedsole at Rucker Security Office before they will schedule you for class.
JasonActon
23 Mar 06, 23:36
Good info, we have a few Soldiers heading out from my unit soon. I'll pass this on to them.
cowboykeith
24 Mar 06, 02:36
Thanks for tyhe good info.
I aman interservice transfur inbound to the 7 June class and I will be reporting to Rucker on Friday the 19th of May. I am assuming that should be plenty of time. I am kind of worried about reporting on a friday, it is going to be more towards the end of the day when I get there? If I get there after the office closes are they open on saturday? What about the housing office?
How long does it take to get everything in the SOP completed?
Thanks for the help.
Its not that bad i showed up on a saturday about a week before the class started (now i'm back in the holding pattern thanks to atrrs sending to many people down here). All they do is stick you in the barracks and reading your woc sop. Its that bad of a process to get done but be sure you try to get at much done as possible or atleast look busy if not you'll be rakeing leaves. but you should have plenty of time, i did everything in under a week. one thing you may want to start on is your autobiography, you can download the requirment of the Warrant officer website.
I was told by a friend to show up on the 11th hour because you will just end up pulling extra duty, guess it depends on who you talk to...
you are going to do that anyway while waiting for your class to start, if you get there on a friday most everything is already taken care of but there is always something that needs to be done. for the first couple days while your inprocessing they will direct you on where to go and they will let you get inprocessed but once you finish you can bet on it. Its not that bad so don't worry about it
It really doesn't matter... When, Why, How or What... you will still be hoarded through like a bunch of "Cattle".
Hey! It's all about the "Alley" anyway.
I may be old, but at least I know how to run my shit through Spell-Check, Candidate.
J. Sparkman
PS If you've got all this time on your hands while writing your autobiography, please make note of these corrections. Just in case you choose to use these particular words in your soliloquy:
atleast = at least
tyhe = the
rakeing = raking
requirment of (in this particular case) = requirement off
your (also in this particular case) = you're
(And don't even get me started on the capitalization, punctuation, and grammar errors.)
PPSS And just in case you think I'm being an overly-particular old hard-ass; Guess what? You're going to have to do an awful lot of writing during your six years in the Army. If this is your best effort, you’d better get used to constructive criticism.
Tighten-up and pay attention, buddy boy.
You'll thank me later.
Ablkhat55
24 Mar 06, 18:11
Sparky.
Thank you for noting those corrections.
However, the prospective WOC might just get by. As I have read, the WOCS has changed quite a bit in the last few years. I am not sure if they even write "MEMOS" anymore.
Dont get me started on the PHASE inspection.
Eric
Eric, WOC Brooks, All,
I must offer my most sincere apologies to the Warrant Officer Candidate posters on this forum. My opinionated tirade on the topic of misspelling errors last night was, clearly, both unwarranted and unwelcome.
This is after all a new world, a new Army, and indeed a newer Internet than the one that I grew up posting to (back in the old days when Al Gore had just freshly invented the thing).
It was unfair of me to assume that my stone-age (and antiquated) rules of spelling and grammar necessarily even apply to the Army of 2006 any more. I bristled in a knee-jerk fashion at the posters use of ‘atleast’, ‘tyhe', and ‘rakeing’. The modern reality is that those words are just as viable and correct as are the expressions ‘lol’, ‘lmfao’, ‘WTF?’, ‘yo, nice bling-bling’, and ‘I sur would like 2 fuk that milf’.
To be fair, anecdotal evidence and personal observation indicate that a few other cases where a "non-standard" spelling is frequently & acceptably used on the Internet are ‘alright’ for all right, ‘a lot’ for a lot, ‘fuk’n jurk’ for fucking jerk, ‘sur I’ll meet you at the mall, lol’ for leave me alone, you pervert, and ‘it's’ for the possessive, its.
My Mea Culpa: I have a bias and prejudicial attitude (toward matters of spelling, punctuation, and grammar errors) that goes way back to a period early in my career.
You see, I once killed a man in a misspelling accident.
Sure, the board of inquiry cleared me of any intentional wrong-doing.
And it is true; the family members of the fellow in question hold no grudge toward me at all. Still, I carry around a considerable amount of angst and baggage from that one, tragic incident.
I swore an oath at the gravesite of my fallen comrade:
Never again will another man die because of an incorrect application of the dangling participle. The safety of others will always rank higher than a whimsical inclination toward slang, rap-speak, syntax errors, and any such related deviations from the standard use of English (as would be reasonably judged by sophisticated users such as professional writers, editors, teachers, and literate executives and personnel officers). I will uphold and maintain a standard of correct spelling and punctuation, and will assist my fellow aviators in doing the same. I will help them to avoid low grades, blown assignment opportunities, lost promotions, and yea, even ‘titters of amusement’ at the way they write or speak. I SWEAR TO NEVER WRITE ‘THIER’ WHEN I REALLY MEAN ‘THEIR’, SO HELP ME GOD!!!
So, call me what you will. Old guy. Fossil. Relic from another age.
I’m only trying to help.
There’s not a damn thing I can do to prevent my beloved English Language from slipping into the stinking, ignorant morass of the 21st Century Internet cesspool of casual lower-case sentence structure, sophomoric over-dependence on acronyms, and a juvenile fascination with smilies, booby avatars, and web-cam masturbation.
But just remember this:
Someday when you really want to nail that term paper,
when you want your grade book folders, SOP’s, and extra-duty memorandums to pass muster with the visiting inspectors from DES,
when you absolutely have to get your MFRs, Degree Completion applications, OERs, NCOERs, and formal written rebuttals to UCMJ allegations past the scrutiny of the Squadron S1,
and when you could really use some advice while crafting your resume, job application, letters to the IRS, addendum to your Divorce Decree, Living Will, and your Last Will & Testament…….
I’m not always going to be around.
kwpilot82nd
25 Mar 06, 08:45
Sparky I totally agree wtih you on the spelling corrections for that Candidate. I had trouble reading it it was so bad. It is a shame people are to lazy to correctly write and form a sentence on the internet.
Originally posted by kwpilot82nd
Sparky I totally agree wtih you
wtih= with
No kidding.
:wacky:
Originally posted by kwpilot82nd
Sparky I totally agree wtih you on the spelling corrections for that Candidate. I had trouble reading it it was so bad. It is a shame people are to lazy to correctly write and form a sentence on the internet.
They changed it to "teh internets" I think
Sparky, that post was great. Anyone can be a critic, what you wrote was art. :bravo: At first it appeared to be your average satirical post, but then you turned our worlds upside down with, "You see, I once killed a man in a misspelling accident." From there, it just gets better.
Write another!
i'm sorry for my inaccurate spelling/ typeing abilities, due to the lack of my attention to detail i look like a idiot. i'm trying to work on these abilities and try my best to correct the problem. if you have problems reading my post don't read them it doesn't bother me.
Originally posted by pyro8541
i'm sorry for my inaccurate spelling/ typeing abilities, due to the lack of my attention to detail i look a idiot. i'm trying to work on these abilities and try my best to correct the problem. if you have problems reading my post don't read them it doesn't bother me. so for all you crabby old people ,wah wah wah blah blah blah, you know what i mean
:shooter: CANDIDATE!
All those "crabby old people" will be your future mentor, your future IP, your future supervisor..."blah blah blah." (that's IF you make it that far with that attitude.) So you might want to watch how you word your replies to their constructive criticism.
i'm just joking i know i suck at typeing but the lack of sense of humor is not a good attitude to have either. i appreciate any constructive correction that i need it only makes me a better. i didn't mean any hard feelings by it sorry. I will strive to pay better attention to post using better grammer and spelling. thanks for the help
WOC SMITH
27 Mar 06, 10:58
Beam me up ......... this thread has lost its intent.
Is there anybody out there?
Originally posted by pyro8541
i'm just joking
gotchya
Look, WOC Brooks
There were no hard feelings, and certainly there was no cruel intent.
It's this simple;
Like it or not, being a successful Army Aviator means more than being a talented stick, a daring combatant, and a loyal team-mate.
It also means being a credible and viable Officer of the US Armed Forces. One who can be counted upon to take raw ideas for the improvement of the organization/system/shop/individual in question/program/Army, & articulate those ideas in such a manner that the chain of command can do something with them.
We were all terrible typists & writers at one point in time.
The advantage YOU have, in the modern computer age, is that you can cut and paste your raw ideas, and run them thru any number of spelling and/or grammar checks, prior to posting or publishing.
Here's what I do;
I compose my rough draft, right here in the 'Post Reply' block of kiowapilots.com, and then I 'left-click and drag' to select the entire body of my text.
I right-click, and then I select, 'copy'.
I then minimize the web-browser, and open up Microsoft Word.
I right-click into the new document, and then select, 'paste'.
At that point, my entire posting is on display, and I can allow the system to highlight my various spelling and grammatical errors.
After I've made my fixes, I then click, "Edit", then "Select All", and then I right-click to, 'copy'.
I minimize my Word document, bring my web-posting back up, and then I right-click, 'paste' back into the block that is still highlighted.
Voila!! Hit, 'submit reply', and you are now a certified genius, and the master of your literary domain!
Your classmates will envy you, woodland creatures will obey you, women will want you, and other fellows will want to be you.
Call me any time you get stuck, and I’ll navigate you through the process.
Okey dokey?
Combat Dan
27 Mar 06, 19:24
Remember you future Warrant Officers, every day you post on here with poor grammar and spelling, haji squats in the desert, using his spell check, getting stronger. This war isn't going to be won by the resolve of our military, or by the bullets in our guns, but by the literary strength of those fighting in it.
Combat Dan,
Someday when you are out of the shit, and you and all the other surviving steely-eyed killers want some advice on applying for an advanced degree, or for putting a resume together, or need a good sample letter of recommendation, or want some tips on preparing for a job interview (for life after the Army), please by all means, give me a call.
I might just know somebody who has the credentials strong enough to earn your respect.
Until then, you just carry on and do what you do best, sir.
I salute you, and all those who so proudly & fiercely wear the uniform that I myself wore with no small amount of pride for well over 25 years.
J.S.
PS Hadji doesn't use Spell Check. That's why in the long run he will kneel before me, and at some point I suspect he will render me the appropriate tribute. In broken English, no doubt.
:eek: :confused: :chomper:
TheHarryMan
27 Mar 06, 20:52
Originally posted by Combat Dan
Remember you future Warrant Officers, every day you post on here with poor grammar and spelling, haji squats in the desert, using his spell check, getting stronger. This war isn't going to be won by the resolve of our military, or by the bullets in our guns, but by the literary strength of those fighting in it.
I've seen misspellings... misspellings that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a misspeller. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what spelling means. Spelling. Spelling has a face... and you must make a friend of spelling. Spelling and grammar are your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies. I remember when I was with Special Forces. Seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to teach spelling to the children. We left the camp after we had taught the children to spell, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every hanging participle. There they were in a pile. A pile of participles. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some kindergarten teacher. I wanted to tear the spell check button from my computer. But there is no such thing. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like an error message... like a Windows critical stop message... a Windows critical stop message with sound. And I thought: My God... the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that spelling and grammar had to be perfect. These were men... trained spellers. These men who fought with their thesauruses, who had families, who had children, who were filled with grammar... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are grammatically correct... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to spell without feeling... without passion... without spellcheck... without spellcheck. Because it's spellcheck that defeats us.
I give up.
That was brilliant.
:hail:
There used to be a great Firefox spell checking extension, unfortunately it doesn't work with the latest Firefox version. If you're running on Linux, there is an extension available.
It was nice being able to spell check without cutting and pasting anything. These days, I don't spell check anything. :( I guess if you write enough reports...
WOC SMITH
28 Mar 06, 10:39
I vote that we rename this thread........... any suggestions?
I hate Pyro
Pyro is an idiot
Who cares Pyro
Shut up Canidate Pyro
I'm suprised Pyro can spell Pyro
I never use i as in I
Lets all gang up on Pyro
Pyrotard
Better you than me Pyro
Why am I in the same class with Pyro?
I hate Pyro and I hope that he is that .00001% chance of washing out of WOCS
Pyro bashing 101
Not anything to do with Pyro, but I really don't care for Chuck Norris
thanks for the support Woc smith
hey Smitty! I don't hate Pyro....just mistook his humor as backlash to all the old crabby people on here bashing his mispellings. :D
thick skin is a plus to have in this forum though.
Genghis_Don
29 Mar 06, 12:54
I feel that little pulse thing in my temple starting to twitch
Combat Dan
29 Mar 06, 18:54
Originally posted by Genghis_Don
I feel that little pulse thing in my temple starting to twitch
Is that that twitch that is telling you to get back to work?
Genghis_Don
30 Mar 06, 00:13
Nope its that twitch telling me to let the Spaniards know where your relatives live.
Genghis_Don
30 Mar 06, 00:13
Hey, did you ever fix the airdam on your car?
KiowaRanger
30 Mar 06, 00:20
If you report to WOCS a week early, you are gay.
Combat Dan
30 Mar 06, 08:37
Originally posted by Genghis_Don
Hey, did you ever fix the airdam on your car?
those zip ties are still holding good.
Originally posted by KiowaRanger
If you report to WOCS a week early, you are gay.
Correct sir! yummy chow hall food, and omg I can mark my gear I/A/W the woc guide puleeez. You will have time to get all that crap done, you arent going anywhere once you get there anyway besides to chow and the docs.
Originally posted by KiowaRanger
If you report to WOCS a week early, you are gay. :laugh:
Although they will need secretaries…
nope your wrong there kiowa ranger, we get off at 1700 and we are free to leave, well atleast to daleville and enterprise. yeah we are stuck here during the day but what the hell we are still getting paid so who cares
I got my date and all, but the guy at MEPS said that I can't come in to get orders earlier than the set date they have for me to go down. I thought that was kind of ridiculous considering that I am driving down to Rucker. I also wanted to get an apartment before WOCS to move all of my crap into. Who can I talk to that knows the answers to these quandaries? I don't want to call up Rucker and pop up on the radar before I even get there, plus my recruiter has no clue. If you've got the answers help a brother out.
Genghis_Don
30 May 06, 17:14
do the orders say "early report authorized"?
They won't give them to me until then, so I don't know at this point. The guy at MEPS doing the leg work is a jackbag, that is why I am trying to find out on my own.
Sparky, I agree with you. When these young smart asses show up in the big sand box, they will understand grammar is the least of their worries. Live it up ball licks, your day is coiming. If your generation is the future, we are screwed. Shut your mouth and open your ears children. You pricks know everything.
Genghis_Don
30 May 06, 22:15
easy killer! lol We're all pricks .... some of us just have more days in the box hehe
Combat Dan
31 May 06, 02:16
hehehe, he said "in the box"
Originally posted by Genghis_Don
easy killer! lol We're all pricks .... some of us just have more days in the box hehe
one night in the box for you, yes boss
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